OK, Let's Talk About Stereotypes

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JO's article about female sex tourism in Jordan generated a fair bit of feedback—some good, some bad and some indifferent. Since you wondered, here's what we were thinking.

Words by Nicholas Seeley.

stereotypes

 

IT’S KIND OF EXCITING: Our June cover story, “On the Prowl,” by Hamza Jilani, which described the issue of female sex tourism in Jordan and its effect on local men’s perceptions of gender, has been the talk of the town—or at least a few lively corners of our local blogosphere. We’ve received lots of feedback on it—some folks were positive, some damning (and quite so!), others were just unsure what to make of it.

And then it was our turn to wonder what to make of the tempest. It was an invitation to debate, and our readers sure gave us a lot to mull over. (We thank you for that, and welcome you to get your comments straight to us here at www.jo.jo.)

So: mulling it over.

Sex Tourism and Stereotypes:

“Hamzeh’s cover piece is conflicting for me; in the discomfort of the truth of it, and in the cementing of stereotypes of Western women in Amman it will promote. It’s tough enough to fight being considered an American Cougar in Amman without articles like this,” writes blogger “Kinzi Jones,” (who is an American woman living in Amman) in an e-mail to us.

Fair enough, Kinzi: we’re uncomfortable with that relationship too. Certainly none of us at JO want to make matters worse on the sexual harassment front. And stereotypes, unfortunately, are pretty cemented by definition.

Of course, that’s when it becomes so important to find out what the objects of stereotypes are actually experiencing. And, also, what those who do the stereotyping are thinking, when they do it. For us, that means reporting, and that was our motivation with this and every other article. We didn’t set out to glorify the phenomenon of sex tourism—but we don’t think it makes much sense to pretend it doesn’t happen.

Still, in our conversations with readers, we found a lot of people who were uncomfortable with the article—often, they weren’t quite sure why.

On the Internet, of course, things were different. Kinzi blogged about the article as well—and online she described it as “cement[ing] the stereotype that American and European women in Jordan are wildly desirous of a piece of Bedouin behind.”

Yikes. That’s certainly not what we meant to do. And her post drew a flurry of pretty outraged comments from her readers, as well.

First, of course, we took a long look back at the text, to see if we’d made any big, stupid mistakes: had we said or implied that all Western women here are sex tourists? Had we quoted someone saying all Western women were easy? Actually, we hadn’t. So we took another look at the critiques, to try and see what the problem was.

A few of the sharpest barbs really got us thinking:

“I get hit on inappropriately by soldiers, men at the bank, shabab waiting in line, you name it,” wrote expat-female MommaBean. “What you did ... is give license to the disgusting behavior that Jordanian men already exhibit.”

“Come on now author dude, as a female you can barely conversate with a male hotel employee in Jordan without getting hit on. I’m not even going to get started on my nightmarish experience with Jordanian male hotel employees,” wrote Asoom.

“Any hopes I had of things in Amman changing from Neandrathal stage to modern 21st Century anytime soon are dashed with this kind of stuff going around,” wrote Daisy, who didn’t say if she was foreign or Jordanian, but who added that our article was “increasing the horror of the lives of us decent women living in Jordan.”

“Of course, the Jordanian man wooing the Western woman for a passport and whitey DNA is no longer news,” blogged Kinzi herself.

You won’t find any argument from us on the point that harassment is outrageous and upsetting. But these bits of comments got us thinking about the stereotypes that cut the other way. After all, folks are making some pretty lurid generalizations about Jordanian men—often at the same time that they’re expressing outrage and disbelief at the fact that some foreign women come to the Middle East to behave badly.

“Western women seducing male Jordanian hotel employees … this is so ridiculous it makes it one of the funniest thing I’ve ever heard all week,” says Asoom.

"The negative implications of such a fluff piece on we Western women does not indicate rewarding you with profit,” says MommaBean.

Hmmm.

We came into this discussion with the knowledge that sex tourism, like honor killing, sexual harassment, domestic violence, and all the other “gender issues” we’ve written about, was a minority phenomenon. Yet like those other minority phenomena, it can have a disproportionate impact on people’s beliefs and behavior. It’s an upsetting thing to discuss, but isn’t sex tourism just one more factor that we need to consider if we’re ever going to have a realistic view of all those complex gender politics?

At least, that’s our point of view—and we think it’s motivated by sound journalism, as well as our own experiences.

 

WHENEVER WE WRITE ABOUT gender issues, we get pretty similar complaints—sometimes from very different sides of the spectrum. Articles about honor killing or the sexual harassment of women usually generate a few comments along the lines of: You shouldn’t write about these things, you make all Jordanians look bad. (Come to think of it, we got a couple of those in response to “On the Prowl,” too.)

Now we are being accused of making Western women look bad, as well.

Our answer is always the same: we shouldn’t stop writing about issues worthy of discussion just because someone might find that discussion unpalatable. It’s true, there will always be some people out there who take discussion of a problem like honor killing, no matter how it’s written, and use it to reinforce their pre-existing stereotypes of Muslims or Arabs. Or Western women. Or whoever. Our job isn’t to condemn the acts—though we do that sometimes, too—but to investigate why they happen, what effect they have on their victims, and what on earth could be motivating the perpetrators.

We’ve discussed these reactions with critics, and we got responses like this one, from Mary Elizabeth Diab, another reader of Kinzi’s blog, who wrote a letter to us directly (thanks).

“When women make broad generalizations, it’s not because they’re anti-Arab, it’s because our experience here is beyond what I suspect most men can imagine.”

Women who suffer regularly from harassment certainly struggle to find ways of coping with the pigeonholing of their identity. But still, we can’t help worrying about the logic that says: The harassment is so bad, it justifies any response we make.

It feels familiar, somehow. Just replace the word “harassment” with the word “terrorism,” and most of us will recognize this story.

It’s the old colonialist narrative that’s been with us for centuries. The colonizer is pure and decent, trying to bring civilization to those who are brutish and bestial. Women and sexuality have always central to this narrative, of course: little is more important to the colonizer than “his” women (because the woman is the source of honor—we’ve seen that somewhere else, too) and she must be placed on an ivory pedestal as an exemplar of virtue and purity, and protected from the corrupting gaze of the lustful savage.

Above all, the colonialist must retain the power of narrative. It is unthinkable that the “Neandrathals,” might have their own version of the story—in this case, that Jordanian men could have their own experience of Western women, which is no less (and no more) true than our critics’ experience of Jordanian men.

Not to be glib, but this is the same colonialist narrative that prevailed in transforming the attacks of 9/11 into a no-holds-barred, global War on Terror: What they’ve done to us is so bad, it justifies any response. We don’t even need to talk about the Israel lobby’s use of this tactic, do we?

Is this too much of a leap, from sexual harassment to terrorism? Well, as one of the folks in this debate put it to us, in a wide-ranging e-mail critique of JO’s biases: “Muslims worldwide still have an annoying habit of killing first, thinking about reputation later, it hardly breeds respect and acceptence ... respect is something earned, not granted.”

No, we don’t think we’re leaping too far. Here is the colonialist narrative at it’s most stark: White Christians and Jews must be respected for who they are, regardless of crusades or occupations; Arabs and Muslims must strive and subdue themselves to “earn” respect.

Reading the kinds of comments we’ve gotten on this article just confirms our belief that it’s important to keep writing about social issues like sex tourism—if only to upset the narrow colonialist sterotype of universally virtuous and pure Western women who are harassed by universally backwards and sleazy Arab men.

 

OF COURSE, CULTURAL stereotypes go both ways. Western women do get stereotyped as sexually promiscuous by some Jordanian men—which may, in turn, lead some of those women to see all Arab men as predatory, and ’round we go.

But do those stereotypes really lead to harassment? It’s not clear. Actually, that’s one of the questions we’ve been trying to find experiential answers for, in articles like the one this June—but so far, we haven’t found strong evidence for a connection. The men we quoted and interviewed in “On the Prowl” are not, as a group, sexual harassers —though some readers seem to have made the assumption that they are. (Some of those men we know well enough to say it’s false; in other cases we just doubt it.)

Nor is sexual harassment something reserved to Western women. Jordanian women suffer harassment every day, in a variety of forms—not to mention the Filipino women, Sri Lankans, Somalis and Sudanese... Read the stories of the Egyptian anti-government protesters in 2006, * or watch Dalia Kury’s film Caution: Comment Ahead, for more elaboration.

And, of course, sexual harassment isn’t confined to the Middle East, either. Women get harassed on the streets of New York, and Delhi, and Rome and Rio and every other city that allows men. So while there may be a link between “stereotypes about Western women” and sexual harassment, it’s at best only part of the story, and we’re wary of privileging it too much. Western women in the Middle East are not only harassed because they are the object of a special stereotype. They are harassed because women are harassed everywhere.

In the end, we hope to learn more about why people do such things. And for that, we need to think about sympathy and understanding, which are crucial to any discussion of stereotypes. What groups is it OK to sympathize with? Who can we try to understand? Can we think about the motives of the 9/11 hijackers, or is that too close to sympathizing with them? Can we ponder the reasons for suicide bombing, or domestic abuse, or harassment, or does the discussion stop with the word “unacceptable”?

It’s interesting that critic after critic has taken us to task for being too sympathetic to the Jordanian men who get involved with sex tourists. But the way we see it, that’s our job. We publish articles all the time about people who are suffering, in ways big or small: harassed women, abused migrant workers, impoverished farmers, evicted slum dwellers, Iraqi refugees, artists who lack opportunities and so on.

Every single one of those articles makes the exact same demand on the reader that some found so objectionable in “On the Prowl.” They ask that we try to understand others’ points of view.

And as long as the group of people written about is considered acceptable, that understanding is potentially forthcoming. But asking for understanding of sexually frustrated Arab men seemed to cross a line for some of our readers. Those guys, we were told, deserve no sympathy, and can’t be understood—they’re just bad, and they’ll never ever be no good.

And now we’re left trying to understand how our readers could think that.

“Understand that what to you may seem racist, is in fact a reality borne of our unfortunately common experiences here,” writes Mrs. Diab. “I love the Arab people, they have a beautiful culture, but that culture has been changing and it is not always for the better. And, men here are being raised poorly on the whole. Somehow they are not able to make the translation that they should not do to women (in general and foreign in particular) what they wouldn’t want done to their mothers and sisters. It is a generalization, but is no less valid for that.”

Have the Western women who have written to us been so scarred by their encounters with harassment that their solace is this: Our stereotypes are true, while theirs are lies?

Even if there were no other argument for why all Jordanians, of all ages and genders, should come together to try to stamp out sexual harassment, we couldn’t really think of a better one than this. Because for a few of the Western women who get harassed, that violence reinforces and actualizes all the stereotypes they’ve ever learned about Arabs and Muslims. And those women and their families—yes, the minority—take their pain, and, indeed, their prejudices with them back home. They pass them to their friends in America and Europe and Israel; they post them on the Internet for everyone to read.

And then Arabs and Muslims wonder why the West doesn’t respect them. (And if you want statistics on that, try John Esposito and Dalia Mogahed’s fascinating book Who Speaks for Islam? What a Billion Muslims Really Think.)

And at the same time, America and Europe export their explicit magazines, their advertising culture and, yes, some of their sexually frustrated women to the Middle East. And ’round we go.

Despite the criticism, we feel for the critics, who have had their identities and autonomy spun by sexual harassment. We will keep trying to see their point of view. But we also feel for the men who get their identities spun by sex tourists, and we’ll continue to try and understand what they are feeling as well. And that we will do without apology.

 

* Correction: The original text misstated the year of the Egyptian protests.

 

 
Comments (27)
It's not the whole story
27 Thursday, 17 September 2009 17:52
Jennifer

Ignoring the issue of harassment of women in general here in Jordan, I still take issue with the article. As presented, it would be more accurately titled 'The Victimization of Arab Men by Foreign Women'. For sure, there are women who come here and look for a hook-up - but this article gives the impression that ALL the men approached in this way feel like victims. You have no interviews with men in the tourist industry who are MORE than happy to be approached by these women or who actually seek them out...or from older men (e.g. tourist camp owners) who enable this activity. Another point - relationships are difficult and may end badly, even between childhood sweethearts. To cite two examples of relationships ending badly due to unscrupulous western women is meant to represent what? Also, does the inclusion of these stories mean that you basically see any relationship between a foreign woman an Arab man as sex tourism? Where are you drawing the line?
wanted to continue this discussion...
26 Monday, 17 August 2009 20:01
kinzi

(I am a little frustrated by how the comment length is deleted when it goes over 1000 characters, but there is no measuring device. I've probably lost 2,500 characters this way) My lost comment said that true stereotyping is holding the acts of a few against those you haven't met yet. I have been harassed on a bi-weekly basis for 16 years here. I have lived in four countries and traveled extensively through twenty-six others, when I was in my 20s and NEVER experienced what I do here on a regular basis. But it hasn't affected my love for Jordan, including her men. I hate it, but i don't hate them. I don't assume every man is going to harass me. I don't hold prejudice against the next man I see because of what the previous one did.
wanted to continue this discussion...
25 Monday, 17 August 2009 19:36
kinzi

...and explain every point you brought up, but I just don't have the heart anymore. Perhaps I am scarred beyond what I am aware of, but I know this: I do NOT think Jordanian men are Neandrathals. The fact I have lived here happily for close to two decades should say something to that. I really enjoy and value the men who are a part of our lives. I am not going to hate the man in front of me for the harassment I just endured from another. If anything I learned from this most painful response, it is that I have gotten out of the habit of forgiving the one who has offended me on the streets of Jordan. I fear that you will perhaps also deem this act as one of a colonial mind-set.
Conspiracy, likely not, Arrogance, perhpas
24 Monday, 10 August 2009 21:57
el3atal

Nick, As I told you many times, your policy is at best misguided. I was trying to articulate a viewpoint that was clearly missing in your original article and rebuttle. Perhaps you can examine leading international magazines for their policy regarding letters (take a look for instance at Time) and consider changing this so called policy. Bottom line, you seem to miss a single point in the entire debate. It is difficult to tell the difference between an expat Westerner resident versus one who is in Jordan for tourism purposes. This is true not only in Jordan but in other countries as well. As such attitudes toward westerners are the same. There is no distinction in people's minds between the tourist versus the residents. They are all foreign.
Ah, a conspiracy theory...
23 Monday, 10 August 2009 12:01
Nicholas

Hmmm. Funny, El, I thought I was pretty clear. Our policy has been the same for years: we only publish signed letters on our letters page. We couldn't publish Kinzi's letter for the same reason, much as we would have liked to. But after a few long e-mail discussions, we felt her blog merited discussion in it's own right, so we did. We've got a whole section in the magazine writing about blogs, many anonymous. Oh well...
My Letter
22 Sunday, 09 August 2009 16:55
el3atal

Isn't it interesting that the only letter that you received (but chose not to publish nor refer to) from an Arab Jordanian male, you refused to print. I had sent a long letter to Nick that he refused to publish because I withheld my last name. However, you were comfortable with publishing content from a blog full of Annon people. hmm
inhospitable?
21 Sunday, 09 August 2009 11:58
Nicholas

@ Kinzi




Given the number of articles we publish about sexual harassment and other forms of violence against women, I find it hard to believe that many of our regular readers would be in the "harassment is cool" crowd. Still, you make excellent points, esp. re: the tour guides -- they certainly merit further thought on our part. The "tour guides" post also reminds me of something else interesting. The worst experiences of harassment/inappropriate behavior cited by friends on your blog all seem to have happened in big hotels. Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but the worst experiences my partner and I have had here have also been in big hotels -- places where one would think foreigners should have a reasonable expectation of, first, safety, and second, the right to act according to their own cultural rules. Does that imply some systematic bad management or training in the tourism industry? Is it just an artifact of where foreigners spend their time? Could there be another reason? Might be something worth looking into in the future...
Discussion, not agreement
20 Sunday, 09 August 2009 11:39
Nicholas

@ Mary Elizabeth: Thanks again for continuing to add you feedback on the website; we appreciate it, even though I don't agree with it all. I think it's interesting to see how far away we still seem to be on this issue, and I suppose that's irresolvable: I don't see this article as biased or implying bias, which you continue to believe, and you don't see the attitude of critics as reflecting a broad generalization about Arab people, which seems very clear to me. And there we are. But at least we can discuss it, so I thank you for prompting that. And I wanted to say that, in response to both your letter and your comment on the site: one thing you've certainly led us to do is think harder about these issues and look deeper than we have before. (Not that we ever publish things we don't think about carefully, but, you know, there's ways and ways... ) So, we may never "agree," but your effort certainly wasn't wasted!
@ Zeina
19 Sunday, 09 August 2009 09:16
Kinzi Jones

Zeina, I only say 'ew' about harassment, not Jordanian men. I quite like our Jordanian male friends. They are just as disgusted by the actions of their compatriots. And it's not just us foreigners who are upset. Some of the strongest reactions to this article came from Jordanian men who are married to Western women. They don't need to be told to go study their own culture to avoid offense. These men hold honor and respect of women as high standards, would you say theirs is also a colonialist mentality? If that many ex-pats read JO, then I say again, as I did before, and my commenter Laura as well, that a strong reaction would not be such a surprise, and should have been anticipated. The people who were the angriest did not bother to complain.
@ Zeina
18 Sunday, 09 August 2009 09:14
Kinzi Jones

Men who read that article it will now wonder: "hhmm, I wonder is that woman is part of that burgeoning sex tourism niche I read about?" I watched three men pick up this very issue and read it while waiting for my son's orthopedic surgeon. These are the same areas where I get the drive-by walk-by harassment that makes life unpleasant. ' 'Foreign educated and open to other cultures' doesn't seem to make a difference, it's an equal opportunity phenomenon. Bellowing "Shu Malak?" or slamming a fist onto a car hood seems to snap them to the realization that they made a judgement error in who they thought might want to get lucky at 3pm with kids in tow.
@ Zeina's letter
17 Sunday, 09 August 2009 09:12
Kinzi Jones

Zeina, thanks for reading. I am going to address this article later, your comment now. I see JO for sale around the corner from where I live, being read from waiting room tables of doctors and dentists, at Full Cup and many other places. By Jordanian men. JO desires to influence it's readership, open minds to new ideas, address uncomfortable topics. It is a good magazine worthy of wide readership.
to Zeina
16 Friday, 07 August 2009 16:09
Natalia
"...they're about Jordanian Arab men being too bestial to desire in your colonialist-toned responses."

I've been with a Jordanian Arab man for nearly six years, and I certainly desire him greatly (why else would I be with him?). The problem is - quite a hefty percentage of other Jordanian Arab men think that I also desire THEM. This isn't something confined to media or comment sections on blogs. It's not mediated. It's a public routine that's part humiliation and part terror. It has wreaked havoc in my relationship with the man I do love.

I wasn't outraged at the article like some other folks - I think there's a compelling story there that needs to be told. But I also think that some stories can't be told without someone else being genuinely upset. Perhaps there is no way to reconcile that. I do think that Nick did the right thing by trying.
I didn't see David's earlier comment, and just wanted to say...
15 Friday, 07 August 2009 15:49
Natalia
"Nevertheless, it happened in the middle of the day and required some nerve on the part of the man."

It happens to me pretty much every time I have to loiter outside without a man with me. I don't even think it has anything to do with nerve, it's more like a reflex.

*Blond woman out by herself? Let's see if I can purchase her for an hour or two. Might as well try.*

It's also a "great" way to show off to your friends just how manly you are, I think. It can be a male-bonding issue as much as anything.
Ver disappointing, JO 2
14 Friday, 07 August 2009 12:49
Mark L
This is a typical day: "In the fifteen-twenty minutes I waited, I had another eye-glass slider, two more woo-hooers, two wolf-whistlers, a very disgusting proposition given in English, another in Arabic, and several spell-bound slow-down-and-stare scenarios." from Kinzi's blog. http://kinziblogs.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/harassment-and-parking-frustrations/ This happened in WEST Amman.

And, next time you accuse a Western woman of prejudice and "ew" factor (ya Zeina) against Arab men, check her last name. Mrs. Diab is married to a Jordanian.
Very disappointing, JO 1
13 Friday, 07 August 2009 12:48
Mark L
Wow. Usually I enjoy JO, but this is so disappointing. Do you really want to equate the handful of guys in Aqaba who have had "sex tourism" encounters with the ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of Western women who get harassed continually if they are out without their husbands?
And do you really want to equate these ladies' objections with the War on Terror? Mrs. Diab was not justifying "any response," simply stating that you don't seem to understand how bad it is (I agree).
You are our only hope in stopping the harassment. The non-educated won't. And we Western men (and certainly Western women) will just be ignored. PLEASE acknowledge that sexual harassment is not a "minority phenomenon". It happens all the time.
Stereotypes
12 Friday, 07 August 2009 09:29
Zeina

(cont'd from previous comment) If there are any cement block stereotypes being made, they're about Jordanian Arab men being too bestial to desire in your colonialist-toned responses.
Stereotypes
11 Friday, 07 August 2009 09:28
Zeina

“Hamzeh’s cover piece is conflicting for me; in the discomfort of the truth of it, and in the cementing of stereotypes of Western women in Amman it will promote." Please, Kinzi, consider Jo's readers...are they really the type of people who have these stereotypes ingrained in their minds in the first place? I think Jo is read by a minority of advanced English speakers who are Jordanian (often foreign-educated and therefore open to other cultures), and native English speakers who are expatriates. So, no danger of cement blocks filling our heads there. I think the article investigates a very interesting, needlessly hidden phenomenon in an objective way. I'd like to see where this investigation leads. To all the foreigners outraged at the article: try to read it again, placing the bedouin men in social context, and forgetting about the "ew" factor that Arab men seem to have for you.
Mmmm hmmmm
10 Thursday, 06 August 2009 23:46
Natalia

This was a very thoughtful response. I think the thing is, women, even those of us who are on pedestals of some kind, are still not treated as equal to men. And we have more to fear from men than they do from us, in most cases (not all, obviously). And I think this is where so much of this anger and grief comes from. Hey, I nurture it myself. Bucket-loads of it. I don't know how you get people to see others as human beings. Unless you *talk* to someone and enjoy their company, you might never fundamentally get them. Then again, as "On the Prowl" and other articles like it show us - you can have sex with someone without ever truly getting them. Maybe that's just something about human beings - about the way we tend to compartmentalize our affection and our understanding of the world and each other. Isn't sex tourism just a perfect little prism of human alienation? In most cases, anyway?
Response to the Talk part 3
9 Thursday, 06 August 2009 22:53
Mary Elizabeth Diab

I did not imply or state that all these young men were bad. But, I actually heard a story just yesterday that could be the flip side (told from the perspective of the "girlfriend") of a young man like Zaid. She was as hurt, upset, and demoralized as any of the young men in your article. And, so, that's what it felt like was missing to me in your story, the two-sided nature of this issue. The fact that all tourism is not sex tourism and that people who marry Arab men honestly and simply are NOT sex tourists. Making this leap is what pushed your story from the perspctive of a few Western women to anyone's fair game for me. I wish you the best with the magazine and hope that you will continue to explore such issues. I simply hope that the next time you do so, you'll take a bit more care and caution to not imply things that you don't intend. While you may not see the implication, others will.
Response to the Talk part 2
8 Thursday, 06 August 2009 22:52
Mary Elizabeth Diab

In addition, in response to your query after the seocnd quote of my correspondence to you, I believe that our stereotype holds truth as does theirs. And both impact our behavior. Since moving to Jordan I have felt compelled to change the way I deal with people, I rarely smile at people on the street (something bred into me by my culture), I frown and discourage conversations since simple friendliness and polite reponses to questions are often construed as some sort of invitation. In short, fending off these constant advances has made me more rude than I would ever consider being in the US. Do I pay for a small minority of women acting badly here? Yes. Do I pay in a disproportionate amount? It certainly seems so to me.
Response to the Talk
7 Thursday, 06 August 2009 22:49
Mary Elizabeth Diab

Nick, Thanks for sharing with us what you were thinking. Unfortunately, I do think your leap from my statement trying to help you see the perspective of women who were outraged by this article to supporters to stereotyping terrorists is huge one. “When women make broad generalizations, it’s not because they’re anti-Arab, it’s because our experience here is beyond what I suspect most men can imagine.” My point was not that our experience warrants any response we choose to make, but rather that the constant barrage of unwanted advances makes us particularly sensitive to things that can be taken outside of the original authorial intent. That you reviewed the article with the author to try andunderstand why it raised such feelings is admirable. That you were unable to do so, says perhaps you needed to broaden the conversation.
Thanks - and some clarifications
6 Thursday, 06 August 2009 20:06
kinzi Jones

It certainly was exciting, wasn't it? Excitement like that neither a blogger nor an editor need regularly, for sure. Thanks for the time and heart you put into this response. Many points to address. First off, something I neglected to say when we spoke, is that title of my blog post was misleading, as the cement on this issue was dry long ago. JO did nothing to 'cement' it. That said, a friend who is a tour operator did say JO is well read among the owner/operators of the region, and he would need to talk to his drivers/guides to make sure that if they read it, his rule of no fraternization with the tourists stood. Another manager at a five star hotel chain said they have strict policies concerning employee/customer contact. So, maybe it was a stretch, and JO would definitely not have fallen into the hands of some the Johnny Depp look-a-likes in Petra and incited mass incidents of harassment. But the perception of many readers did 'go there'. (more later)
democracy
5 Thursday, 06 August 2009 14:27
mohammed shadid
about my point of view is i believe that media must have unlimited ambitions and without freedom of speech and without the censor the media will achieve the best level and thats all goes directly to the benefit of jordanian people....we dont have to hide what we have because hidding the problem will never solve it ....what we need is more democracy for media.....thanx
It's all about respect
4 Thursday, 06 August 2009 13:52
David Webb
Concerning stereotypes against men, there are decent guys out there that respect women and would never treat one in a way that is insensitive. Such men need to stand up against those who would belittle and disrespect women, from the halls of Parliament to the streets of the souk. The role of respect is a job that we all must engage.
Man-centric society
3 Thursday, 06 August 2009 13:51
David Webb
Jordan is a man-centric society. Even the laws of family entitlement reflect the lack of rights of women. But I believe that women can begin to empower themselves in order to see changes made in the future. For all of man's bravado, it's merely a blusterous smoke screen to hide their feelings of inadequacy. If women were to step up and "grow a pair of balls", so to speak, the tables may start tipping in their favor.
Who's to blame?
2 Thursday, 06 August 2009 13:49
David Webb
It's hard not to stereotype when this issue seems so widespread, but Western woman aren't the only ones suffering from it. Who's to blame for this endemic problem? My opinion may not be very popular, but I have an idea of one party who is to blame: women themselves - and mothers in particular. I've seen how young boys are reared in Jordan. Many of them are treated like little princes and allowed to do whatever they want. Many have embedded entitlement issues and are not instilled with a respectful attitude towards women. If women are becoming sick and tired of the general attitude towards the female gender that pervades today's society, perhaps they will remember to teach their young men to respect others as they grow up.
Not just foreigners
1 Thursday, 06 August 2009 13:46
David Webb
"Nor is sexual harassment something reserved to Western women. Jordanian women suffer harassment every day, in a variety of forms..."

This is very true. Just yesterday, my fiance (who is Jordanian, by the way), was standing in front of a bank waiting for a taxi when an older man pulled up and motioned for her to get into his car. He assumed she was a prostitute even though she wasn't wearing anything promiscuous. Granted, my fiance doesn't look like a Jordanian woman in the typical sense, so perhaps he thought she was foreign. Nevertheless, it happened in the middle of the day and required some nerve on the part of the man.

Also several days ago, she was parking her car on the street in front of a friend's house. As she bent down to pick up something from the floor of the car, a man drove by and commented loudly about her butt (using the term "teez" in this situation).

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